lördag 31 oktober 2009

Why Asha is not intelligent design but rather intelligence manifested

Dear Jehan

Please be warned that Hoyle's enthusiasm for intelligent design finds very little support neither in science nor in contemporary philosophy nor in The Gathas. Science certainly does not need it - the theory of parallel universes is much more feasible than intelligent design - and philosophy does not need it either as Hoyle's Cartesian starting point, that his own ego is the constant for the world, is incorrect. The true wonder is not the that world is what it IS (as if it ever were in a stable state) but rather that the current Hoyle developed rather than not the millions and millions of different Hoyles that COULD have existed in this instance had the current one not. In other words: Hoyle has not even understood what FLUX is, the very foundation of his statement is incorrect. We should also add that nowhere in the Gathas is there any idea that Asha has existence before that through which it manifests itself exists. There is no intelligence before the intelligence manifests itself in Mazdayasna. It is through its manifestation that Asha comes into existence. So The Gathas itself does not support intelligent design in any way. It may be your personal belief, fine, but the belief that intelligent design does not exist is at least as valid in Zoroastrianism. Asha is tje manfestation of intelligence, not the design of intelligence, the intelligence is not separate from the design, it is its own attribute!!! THAT is what makes Asha an amazing concept, otherwise we could all just go and become Muslims or Christians.


2009/10/30 Jehan Bagli

Dear Parviz:

I believe that Hoyle was proponent of Order in Nature. He said so in his Omni Lecture to the Royal Society that,

"...biomaterial with their amazing measure or order must be the outcome of INTELLIGENT DESIGN. No other possibility I have been able to think of..."

Hoyle's mention of INTELLIGENT DESIGN is yet another case of a scientist accepting existence of knowledge/intelligence beyond the realm of the physical. In a sophisticated manner Hoyle is trying to tell us what Mobedyar from Kerman is telling you in his own way.

The above anouncement only confirms the statement of Hoyle, that you have quoted. These confirm that Hoyle was staunch believer in the Order of Nature. His statements only reinforces the concept of Asha that pervades Zarathushtrian theology.

The concept of Asha that clearly embodies the Truth that is vested in the Immutable Order of Nature demonstrates beyond all doubts the strength of the philosophy of life delineated by Zarathushtra.

Peace and Light

Jehan Bagli

On 30-Oct-09, at 3:58 AM, Parviz Varjavand wrote:

> Dear Moobed Jehan Bagli,
> The astronomer Fred Hoyle says, "the likelihood of even the simplest biological cell arising via random process is comparable to that of a tornado sweeping through a junkyard assembling a Boeing 747".
> As a learned Zoroastrian Moobed, what do you think the position of Zoroastrianism is with regards to this issue?
> Yours sincerely,
> Parviz Varjavand

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