fredag 22 juli 2011

Zoroastrianism as PROCESS philosophy! (Plato vs Heraclitus)

Correct! And I couldn't agree more.
The true relative of Zarathushtra among the Greek philosophers, or rather the Greek who was inspired by Iranian thought, was Heraclitus. Definitely not Plato, by far the most "Abrahamic" of the Greek thinkers and only therefor enormously popular in Europe and the Middle East...
Ushta
Alexander

2011/7/22 Special Kain

According to Bahram Varza, the Gathic message is all about contributing constructively and creatively to the constant renewal of this world - our thoughts nurture our actions and our words, our actions and words have real consequences in this world (human beings as co-creators).
There's no talk about any other worlds (heaven, hell, astral planes, etc.) in The Gathas. There's no talk about heavenly father figures, punishment, salvation, sins, confessions - this junk is for Abrahamites and their masochistic desires.
I only disagree with Varza's panentheism.

Ushta,
Dino

--- Alexander Bard schrieb am Fr, 22.7.2011:

Von: Alexander Bard
Betreff: Re: [Ushta] Khashatra and Armaiti
An: Ushta@yahoogroups.com
Datum: Freitag, 22. Juli, 2011 12:16 Uhr

Correct! Bahram Varza is BRILLIANT!!!

I often wonder also if not the German language - the language of process philosophers par excellence - is more suitable for Gathas and other Avesta translations than English is.
Ushta
Alexander

2011/7/22 Special Kain

I guess Bahram Varza meant the same thing when he defined Armaiti as "balance" and Khashatra as "that which follows good actions".
For everybody who doesn't know Varza yet, he has translated The Gathas into German. According his studies, Zarathushtra was a philosopher and teacher who said that people don't need any prophets nor blind faith in order to contribute constructively to civilization. All it takes is a constructive mentality to start with. In this sense, people are "doomed" to choose between blind faith and their capacity to think critically and independently. Zarathushtra never called himself a prophet. Prophets are for Abrahamites.

Ushta,
Dino

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