Civilizations vs Hedonism (was: A Scientist and a Judge)

Dear Parviz

I believe what you are missing is whether something IS asha or druj or whether we experience it as asha or druj.
Asha and druj are not substances or essences, things just ARE, they are NOT in themselves asha or druj.
Asha or druj is what things become to us depending on which attitude we confront phenomena with.
Zarathushtra does not even dicuss substances or essences, HE FINDS THAT NOT INTERESTING. He only discusses mentalities and what different mentalities RESULT IN. Think feedback loops. What does a thought result in? Which is its outcome? THAT is what concerns us as Mazdayasni.
Leave the rest to science to figure out.

Ushta
Alexander

2011/8/13 Parviz Varjavand

Dear Dino,

If .."There are no fixed meanings, because things mean what they cause".., then Asha or Droj are meaningless terms too. If a Droj can bring positive results for us, then it is an Asha.
I see your point, yet a feeling in me lingers that there is something missing here. What is it that I am missing?

Ushta,
Parviz

From: Special Kain
To: Ushta@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Fri, August 12, 2011 2:02:40 AM
Subject: Re: AW: [Ushta] Creating Civilizations vs Simple Hedonism (was: A Scientist and a Judge)

Dear Behnaz

It is important and healthy to be part of something larger than one's ego - whatever this may be - and manage the dynamic tensions between one's individuality and one's commitment to the cause. So it's not about totalitarianism or collectivism where you're told which meaning you should give to your life. Meaning does not only exist in one's head, but develops and changes between people. It is an open-ended process, work in progress, "under construction", it changes over time. There are no fixed meanings, because things mean what they cause.

Ushta,
Dino

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Datum: Donnerstag, 11. August, 2011 23:21 Uhr

Interesting, so a Chines busy bee is less melancholy than a middle-class, western individual!?