onsdag 25 juli 2012
Asha as "qualitative intersubjective agreement"
Exactly!
And this is called INTERSUBJECTIVE AGREEMENTS rather than OBJECTIVE TRUTHS.
Intersubjective agreements are consequently "more or less true" but never completely true and rarely completely false either (although sometimes they are, just being popular, Jesus having walked on water being a perfect example of such an obvious lie many consider intersubjectively agreeable anyway, although obviously not non-Christians like myself).
Outside of such tautological agreements as 1+1=2 there are no verbal absolute truths. So "truth" in Zarathushtra's sense ("asha") is that which seems to work after having been tried and tested over and over by many and therefore become a functioning intersubjective agreement. Like a "scientific truth-agreement".
Zarathushra understood Immanuel Kant thousands of years before Kant even lived. And Schelling is the giant of German philosophers of epistemology. Recommended reading!
Ushta
Alexander
2012/7/25 Parviz Varjavand
Dear friends,
When they say someone is "DERANGED", it usualy means that the person is psycotic or even mad. They keep the seriously Deranged persons in mental institutions and even in padded cells and under lock and key at times. A deranged person may act normal in many instencas, but it is a given that a "Deranged" person is not a "Normal" person.
"Reality", "Truth", "Asha", "Sanity", "Sience", and many more key words in our culture and civilisation describe a "RANGE of Agreed Upon Norms". Outside that Range, many things do happen also, but When Not Deranged persons talk about them, it implies usualy that they are talking about things that fall whithin that range. In our discussions about "Asha" or "Truth",etc., many forget that we are talking about this "RANGE" of things and not about the absolute of them.
Ushta,
Parviz
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If one of us is lying, the Pharaoh can tell who is speaking the truth. Thats his role. A role that was delegated from Ptah, to him. He is the one single link between the inside and the outside. So, in practice, even if the Pharaoh is wrong, he is right.
It's like a modern supreme court. Truth is a intersubjective contract between the inside of those who are involved and the outside (reality).
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