Having written the below in affect, I would like to add that I love you as a brother and as long as we respect each other and ALLOW different interpretations of the texts of our religion while understanding that these texts are NOT holy but merely brilliant INSPIRATIONS for us all, we are fine together!!!
Zarathushtra loved us as the future Zoroastrians. He meant well. He used his best mind (an excellent mind) to give us a VISION which we could follow and DEVELOP after him.
But the history of the world and the history of knowledge does not stop with The Gathas. The science we conduct today, the democracy we recognize is essential for human relations, are all FRUITS of his philosophy. Now we should develop this further, that is what it means wto live within the SPIRIT OF ZARATHUSHTRA.
He never meant to put an end to human knowledge or development, his texts, his words, were just the starting points for what we then develop from them. THIS is what it means to be a Mazdayasni.
No more blind faith, no more blind following, that is for the stupid and degrading desert religions, but it is not for us. We believe in our own capacity to CREATE, in the potential of all humankind to create and develop the world, for us all to be one with Ahura Mazda!!!
That is what it means to be a true Mazdayasni, don't you agree?
Ushta
Alexander
2009/8/10 Alexander Bard
Dear Mehran
Iris is right, Zoroastrianism does not require us to BELIEVE anyhting in blind faith whatsoever. So there are Zoroastrian Pantheists and also Zoroastrain PanENtheists. Both are fine and should tolerate each other.
But Mehran, you have to immediately STOP this nonsense about YOU being the only person on the planet understanding The Gathas and YOU being the only person allowed to dictate what it means to be a Mazdayasni.
It is a laughable and pathetic statement. Zarathushtra is our guide, not you.
Yes, The Gathas is important to us all, but that does not that your personal INTERPRETATION of The Gathas is a requirement to be called a Zoroastrian. We have very different interpretations of what Zarathushtra MEANT with his text.
If science proves that anything in The Gathas is wrong, then science is more important, even ZARATHUSHTRA himself believed this. Anything else would be an idiotic belief. The Gathas is NOT a holy book, Zarathushtra NEVER made such a claim.Not anywhere! So stop putting Islam into our beautiful religion! Stop your Gathas worship!
It is NOT the Gathas we are worshipping and celebrating as Mazdayasni, it is the fact that there is a world, that this world existsand is beautiful, and that there is MIND to contemplate within this world.
That is what Mazdayasna means, literally, nothing more and nothing less. Gathaist extremism is an entirely different faith. Book worship is Abrahamic, it is alien to Zarathushtra and to Zoroastrianism. We are not a desert religion! We put our wise minds before ANY book. We are intelligent and not stupid.
Ushta
Alexander
2009/8/10 MoobedyAr Mehran Gheibi
Dear Iris
You are true. But them matter was begun, when some one in this group wrote that there is not any God beyond the universe, and universe is God itself.
However, the essential point is believing in God as it is taught in GAthA. Without this belief, we do not have any interior cause to be ethical.
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What are scientists Children of the knowledge Primal seed of cosmical machine Schemes and terms from sky laboratories Investigation‘s brought by Creator‘s wit
Physical aspect and lace of metaphysic
Supreme touch urges to create
Science wit knows sense of moving
But Divine can’t be proved by theme
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