torsdag 16 juli 2009

Who created the scientist?

2009/7/16 Georgios Papadopoulos

There is no "before the Big Bang", no before (as we understand it) before the creation of our world. Our brain cannot conceive the state of the universe at the moment of its creation. If there is a creator, he is obviously not bound by the limits of his creation. If you don't believe in a creator it's all right with me, but this is just as speculative as to believe there is one. You cannot prove or disprove the existence of a creator through solid science.

Is that really so?
Or is that just the sloppy traditional agnostic argument which really doesn't hold?
Your seem to put an EQUAL burden of proof on two arguments when in reality there is no such equal burden of proof.
If I claim that there is a Santa Claus living on the ice of Greenland, then the evidence of proof is NOT equal between you and me. I who have made the claim has to show the evidence, you need to do absolutely nothing but can call me an idiot until I have proven I'm right: Which I of course never will be able to.
The claim that there is a PERSONAL CREATOR behind the existence of The Universe is an equally idiotic statement until it is proven to be correct. But it is not a default position in a debate. Rather it just reveals the enormous need for a father figure, for a control over chaos, a banal urge, within the person who makes the statement.
This is why agnosticism never works in a debate. Because behind every argument presented, there is a PERSON with a specific need and a specific agenda. Statements do not exist without subjects. Which was precisely Zarathushtra's point: If you have your mind set on TRUTH and not on FALSITY, there will be a qualitative difference in your arguments, the very basics for science too. You and the statement are one with each other! That's Zoroastrianism!

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liebera sa...

What are scientists Children of the knowledge Primal seed of cosmical machine Schemes and terms from sky laboratories Investigation‘s brought by Creator‘s wit
Physical aspect and lace of metaphysic
Supreme touch urges to create
Science wit knows sense of moving
But Divine can’t be proved by theme

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liebera sa...

ARMY OF LOVERS’ CLONES are as French résistance. French communist Michael romances with positive lad from positive French Gestapo. Local stripper Sarah is busy worker. Female Polizei is in jealousy. Unhonest Owner of Milk Factory is only one negative person. There is no blood and horrors in the story that is the result of mobilistic philosophy. Do you want Whole Clip script, Alex? And what about the Romanovs and The communists who live in complete peace or BWO, VACCUUM and ARMY OF LOVERS members as heroes of fancy tales?

PS there may be some silliness in my first commentary. I was shy that time. It’s my explanation…