This is why it becomes a form of slavery to the superego.
You can't be too rich, you can't be too thin, you can't be too beautiful, you can't be too successful, you can't have too much good food, great sex, etc. But you also can't be too intelligent or too funny too social.
It is this lack of balance (for lack of a better world), and this state of unawareness of being a slave to one's superego that makes it so tyrannical.
Zarathushtra's credo is here similar to those of Spinoza and Nietzsche: If we become aware of the tyranny of the superego, we make it possible for ourselves to balance between supergo, ego and id as categories of psychoanalysis. We need to learn to handle all this PERMISSION we have arrived at historically.
So "Live!" or even better "Asha!" captures this balance where "Enjoy!" does not.
Ushta
Alexander
2010/6/27 Special Kain
Dear Rory
The problem with "Exist!" is that our philosophy is about Mazda, not Ahura. We're Mazdayasni, not Ahurayasni. All philosophy begins with the existentialist experience: the amazing fact that there is something rather than nothing (and I owe this to Alexander).
Then, "Enjoy!" is a really twisted and cynical superego command which is to typical of our society. You're not allowed to be sad, you're not allowed to do something else than have fun all the time, you're not allowed to not enjoy sex and care about becoming a sexually and emotionally healthy person - even though we still don't know what that healthy person would look like, since it's such a confusingly vague ideal. That's just too much pressure and, as I strongly believe, this ideology is probably related to the significant increase in clinical depression and impotence. There are other influencing factors, such as the food we eat, but "Enjoy!" is a very tricky thing.
This is where demonstrating that you don't like sex that much becomes a revolutionary act!!!
"Asha!" is our superego command, simply because we are obliged to pursue the truth relentlessly and live in accordance with the truth. Just do away with all superstitious bullshit and see the world for what it is, be brutally honest with yourself.
My ten cents,
Dino
--- Rory
Von: Rory
Betreff: [Ushta] Re: The Superego Command
An: Ushta@yahoogroups.com
Datum: Sonntag, 27. Juni, 2010 10:44 Uhr
We need to link exist and Asha somehow. The problem with "exist" is it's pretty hard not to unless you're dead... By "live" I meant "with/in Asha". By live I mean actively exist along the lines of "enjoy", not passively exist.
Ushta,
Rory
--- In Ushta@yahoogroups.com, Alexander Bard
>
> I prefer asha to live, as I don't know what the imperative "Live!" means.
> It is also better than "Exist!" which I like poetically speaking, but which
> unfortunately makes very little sense.
> Imperatives don't work if they are too vague, too abstract. They then mean
> nothing to us, which means we subconsciously orientate ourselves towards
> another more concrete imperative.
> Worth keeping in mind. ;-)
> Ushta
> Alexander
>
> 2010/6/26 Special Kain
>
> >
> >
> > Dear Rory
> > And why do you suggest this superego command?
> > I think "Asha!" is the ultimate superego command, simply because we're
> > ethically obliged to live in accordance with Asha - (1) the true order of
> > things and (2) the relentless pursuit of the truth.
> >
> > Ushta,
> > Dino
> >
> > --- Rory *
> > *
> >
> > *
> > Von: Rory
> > Betreff: [Ushta] Re: The Superego Command
> > An: Ushta@yahoogroups.com
> > Datum: Samstag, 26. Juni, 2010 15:43 Uhr
> >
> > *
> > * * * *
> > * *
> >
> > *Dear Dino,
> >
> > "Live!"
> >
> > Ushta,
> >
> > Rory
> >
> > --- In Ushta@yahoogroups.com
> > Special Kain
> > >
> > > Dear friends
> > > It started with the psychoanalyst Jacques Lacan and the cultural theorist
> > Slavoj Zizek, please see here:
> > >
> > > http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Umwetjs_Ja4
> > >
> > > According to them, the superego command in our society and our age is
> > "Enjoy!". You MUST enjoy, you MUST have fun all the time, you MUST be happy!
> > > That's when Alexander suggested that the superego command in
> > Zoroastrianism is "Exist!", so let me please make my own suggestion: our
> > superego command is "Asha!".
> > >
> > > Any feedback, suggestions, anything?
> > >
> > > Ushta,
> > > Dino
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